[QCLUG] Revealed.net domain sold *again* ?
Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune
roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com
Sat, 24 May 2008 18:47:44 -0500
I think I'm aware of what your talking about, and that was for the hosted
domains, not the revealed.net accounts.. And if I'm not mistaken they are
not using a "free" part of it, it's google's hosted apps for ISPs, which
offer a great range of services, but I don't think that's free..... I knew
they were looking into that a while back, but didn't know if they decided to
move forward with it or not.
rk
On Saturday 24 May 2008 18:42, Cody Wilson wrote:
> That information came from me, in which if NBS hasn't switched all users
> over to it yet, they will be. They've already converted most, if not
> all customers with domain e-mail accounts over. I believe the only
> thing procluding them from doing so right now is that they aren't sure
> how to pull the subscriber list from the database on the server, as
> they've been converting people over one by one by referencing the e-mail
> credentials from the tool.
>
> I may be mistaken, I speak only from the conversation I had with their
> admin a while ago, and such info might have changed.
>
> -Cody Wilson
> belthesar@belthesar.com
>
> Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote:
> > Well, checking the nslookup and whois information, I see the revealed.net
> > email still goes to the same revealed.net server that I configured so
> > long ago, and is running in thier facility. So I'm not sure about the
> > google apps part of this. Are you sure that isn't what they are using
> > just to provide a webmail interface instead? (I only use mine via a mail
> > client, so I haven't kept up if they changed the webmail interface.)
> >
> > ---
> > # nslookup -type=mx revealed.net
> > Server: 127.0.0.1
> > Address: 127.0.0.1#53
> >
> > Non-authoritative answer:
> > revealed.net mail exchanger = 10 mail.revealed.net.
> >
> > Authoritative answers can be found from:
> > revealed.net nameserver = asw.revealed.net.
> > revealed.net nameserver = ns.revealed.net.
> > mail.revealed.net internet address = 12.179.7.245
> > ns.revealed.net internet address = 12.163.40.50
> > asw.revealed.net internet address = 12.163.40.51
> >
> > # nslookup 12.179.7.245
> > Server: 127.0.0.1
> > Address: 127.0.0.1#53
> >
> > Non-authoritative answer:
> > 245.7.179.12.in-addr.arpa name = foghorn.revealed.net.
> >
> > Authoritative answers can be found from:
> > 7.179.12.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns.nbson.com.
> > 7.179.12.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.nbson.com.
> > ns.nbson.com internet address = 12.163.40.2
> > ns2.nbson.com internet address = 12.163.40.3
> >
> > # whois 12.179.7.245
> > AT&T WorldNet Services ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
> > 12.0.0.0 - 12.255.255.255
> > KEWANEE COM KEWANEE-10-7 (NET-12-179-7-0-1)
> > 12.179.7.0 - 12.179.7.255
> >
> > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-05-23 19:10
> > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
> > ---
> >
> > The email is still flowing through thier network etc. And technically,
> > a forwarder would use twice as much bandwidth as a stock delivery (40k
> > in, then 40k out... for a 40k message :} )
> >
> >
> > Guess I'm confused a bit confused on the part about excuses :} I'm not
> > sure of your experience thus far with NBS, so I can't comment on that :}
> >
> > rk
> >
> > On Saturday 24 May 2008 18:07, Mark Riedesel wrote:
> >> I would be a little more understanding if they weren't using google
> >> apps for their email service. If they were running their own mail
> >> servers, sure, I can understand charging $5/mo for an email account
> >> for bandwidth and storage, but $5/mo a barely used forward that's
> >> handled off-site?
> >>
> >> It's not so much the measly $5/mo that irks me, it just annoys me when
> >> people would rather spend more time to make excuses than it would be
> >> to solve the problem.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune
> >>
> >> <roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> wrote:
> >>> Yeah, due to some issues I can't really speak about, the remaining
> >>> Revealed hosting was moved over to NBS. I worked with NBS and helped
> >>> move all the Revealed servers to thier facility.
> >>>
> >>> Honestly, $60/yr ($5/mo) is not unreasonable for an email account. I
> >>> realize that there are free google, yahoo, etc, email accounts out
> >>> there, and if free is the real issue there, then okay. I know NBS is
> >>> really excited about getting the revealed.net business and customers,
> >>> and are working hard to help everyone with all the upheavals that have
> >>> been experienced recently.
> >>>
> >>> They are not a huge company like google, so can't afford to offer free
> >>> emails. All email accounts, spam protection (which as far as I know is
> >>> in the works again after the postini fiasco... <- not NBS's fault ...
> >>> just FYI), etc.. costs bandwidth, which costs money.. I can only
> >>> commend them for keeping the cost as low as they have.
> >>>
> >>> I must say they have a great group of people, and a great
> >>> network/facility. Very responsive and fast network, like I always tried
> >>> to maintain at Revealed. Their networking model closely resembles how
> >>> I would have done it... (for what that's worth:} )
> >>>
> >>> They are still ramping up thier technical support, billing, and other
> >>> teams to handle the increased customer load they have, so all I'd ask
> >>> is you give these guys a chance.
> >>>
> >>> rk
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday 20 May 2008 01:26, Mark Riedesel wrote:
> >>>> This obviously isn't directly Linux related, but I know a few of us on
> >>>> the list had been faithful revealed.net customers in the past years.
> >>>> We're all aware of SoloConnect's acquisition and resultant sub-par
> >>>> customer service, they were at least courteous enough to provide free
> >>>> email forwards for our old revealed.net e-mail addresses.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, it seems as though SoloConnect has sold the revealed.net domain
> >>>> name to Network Business Systems ( nbson.com ) located in Geneseo, IL
> >>>> who are now offering @revealed.net addresses for $60/year which seems
> >>>> rather exorbitant considering all the excellent free email providers
> >>>> available nowadays. The real kicker is that they've also chosen to
> >>>> charge the same fee for e-mail forwarding which is unfortunate for
> >>>> those of us who have had revealed.net addresses since the early
> >>>> 1990's.
> >>>>
> >>>> So my question for the old revealed.net address holders, what are you
> >>>> guys planning to do? The other question being for anyone else that's
> >>>> had a situation where an ISP sells off a domain name to a
> >>>> exponentially less courteous company? Obviously if you own a domain,
> >>>> you get to choose what you do with it, it's just unfortunate in
> >>>> situations such as this one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark
> >>>>
> >>>> *grumble grumble*
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