[QCLUG] QCLUG
David Hinkle
hinkle@cipafilter.com
Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:32 -0500
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Anti-virus is an industry wide cash cow. My company's product is a very =
easy sell because we can save schools thousands of dollars on anti-virus =
alone.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of DMichael Burns
Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 9:40 PM
To: qclug@qclug.org
Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG
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I really like what I read about your product, and welcome to the group.
Now, for a little sarcasm on my part -
> a person needs Microsoft's specialized dev kit for interfacing with =
the
> hard drive device layer...This dev kit is only offered under terms =
that are
> very hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time anti-virus engine. =
I
> don't think anybody with the wherewithal to write such an engine has =
had the
> guts to test Microsoft in court.
>
That is how Microsoft follows through on their promise to be more =
accepting
of the Open Source Community.
:)
Zonie
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:02 AM, David Hinkle =
<hinkle@cipafilter.com>wrote:
> Unfortunately what actually prevents a real time anti-virus engine =
for
> windows from being released to the wild under the GPL is that fact =
that in
> order to write such an engine, a person needs Microsoft's specialized =
dev
> kit for interfacing with the hard drive device layer. Such device =
drivers
> are called file system filters or minifilters. This dev kit is only =
offered
> under terms that are very hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time
> anti-virus engine. I don't think anybody with the wherewithal to =
write such
> an engine has had the guts to test Microsoft in court.
>
> What we did, was to write a standalone application called a =
"minifilter"
> that is loaded like a device driver. Another standalone application =
that is
> a tray client and user interface. Then I ported the clamav engine to
> windows and turned it into a service that accepts requests to scan =
over a
> named pipe. The source code for the clamav port is available, of =
course,
> but the other two applications are proprietary. I am actually going =
to
> propose to my company that we open source this project, but the =
decision is
> not mine alone.
>
> Before we wrote this, we actually tried working with clamwin project
> instead. I offered to work with them on the port and they accepted my =
offer
> but then they just strung me along for months without giving me access =
to
> their repositories. We couldn't afford to wait for them so we had to
> develop our own, which was a very expensive and time consuming =
project, as
> you may imagine.
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Aaron Johnson
> Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 7:59 AM
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG
>
> I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time antivirus
> client
> based on the open source ClamAV engine.
>
> Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one =
thing
> that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an
> on-access real-time scanning function...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org =
[mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org<qclug-bounces@qclug.org>]
> On Behalf Of
> David Hinkle
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG
>
> CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, such =
as
> firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We do =
use
> ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past).
>
> However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, =
greylisting), are
> implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also =
use
> spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we
> developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to =
SPF,
> greylisting and some additional header analysis.
>
> There's no download link, but of course our customers can request any =
GPL
> software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases =
third
> parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in =
possession of
> the binaries and request a specific software package used in the =
product by
> name. (See GPLv3 6-b).
>
> We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software =
is
> linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on =
the
> development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for us, =
not
> an
> end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform.
>
> But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with =
the
> spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL
> package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email =
at no
> charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But =
you'd
> have
> to tell me what package you want the source for.
>
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert
> Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG
>
> Welcome, the list have been quite of late.
>
> I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some
> GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you
> have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in
> learning more about it.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote:
>
> >
> > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr.
> > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that
> > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in
> > becoming involved with the LUG.
> >
> > David
> >
>
>
>
>
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