From combustioninc@yahoo.com Thu Aug 6 04:42:22 2009 From: combustioninc@yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QCLUG] August Meeting Message-ID: <185117.25487.qm@web57607.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi all=0A=0AIm sorry Ive been out of touch since the June meeting but I hav= e been so very busy at=0Awork.=0A=0AWe meet the second Tuesday of each mont= h, correct?=A0 Also I vote for the alternate=0ACIPA Filter/ Bettendorf Libr= ary meetings=A0on alternate=A0months with the August meeting at=0ABent Rive= r....that is if votes are still being taken.=0A=0AFinally, are we all meeti= ng at Bent River on August 10 or did I stupidly miss the August =0Ameeeting= ?=0A=0ABob=0A=0A=0A From combustioninc@yahoo.com Thu Aug 6 05:33:57 2009 From: combustioninc@yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QCLUG] August Meeting Message-ID: <972758.19908.qm@web57601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi all=0A=0AIm sorry Ive been out of touch since the June meeting but I hav= e been so very busy at=0Awork.=0A=0AWe meet the second Tuesday of each mont= h, correct?=A0 Also I vote for the alternate=0ACIPA Filter/ Bettendorf Libr= ary meetings=A0on alternate=A0months with the August meeting at=0ABent Rive= r....that is if votes are still being taken.=0A=0AFinally, are we all meeti= ng at Bent River on August 10 or did I stupidly miss the August =0Ameeeting= ?=0A=0ABob=0A=0A=0A From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Mon Aug 10 17:51:44 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:51:44 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] August Meeting In-Reply-To: <972758.19908.qm@web57601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <972758.19908.qm@web57601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908100951o435f25c1lcc8f4c31a065e5f8@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Bob wrote: > Hi all > > Im sorry Ive been out of touch since the June meeting but I have been so > very busy at > work. > > We meet the second Tuesday of each month, correct? Also I vote for the > alternate > CIPA Filter/ Bettendorf Library meetings on alternate months with the > August meeting at > Bent River....that is if votes are still being taken. > > Finally, are we all meeting at Bent River on August 10 or did I stupidly > miss the August > meeeting? > > Bob > > > > I believe that should be August 11 (tomorrow). All the votes are in, but thank you for yours. The alternate months and Bent River passed. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/e7072e2f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Fri Aug 21 15:38:54 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:54 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mono - first question Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Before I get into anything lengthy, is anyone really familiar with "mono"? If not, I won't go further. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/6459c0d3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Fri Aug 21 15:51:12 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:51:12 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mono - first question In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44262bfc0908210751s59232a39xc125e28331c7f72@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment If this http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page then yes a little. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > Before I get into anything lengthy, is anyone really familiar with "mono"? > If not, I won't go further. > > Jim > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/5cee9b08/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Fri Aug 21 20:39:52 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:39:52 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mono - first question In-Reply-To: <44262bfc0908210751s59232a39xc125e28331c7f72@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908210751s59232a39xc125e28331c7f72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44262bfc0908211239u1f3aecf3i764b429ffc0650fe@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Here is a nice overview of the mono project for those that are interested: http://ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2005/03/21/interviewmiguel.html On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Bergert wrote: > If this http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page then yes a little. > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > >> Before I get into anything lengthy, is anyone really familiar with "mono"? >> If not, I won't go further. >> >> Jim >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/25e0ed10/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sun Aug 23 15:43:12 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:43:12 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mono - first question In-Reply-To: <44262bfc0908211239u1f3aecf3i764b429ffc0650fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908210751s59232a39xc125e28331c7f72@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908211239u1f3aecf3i764b429ffc0650fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908230743v664147d3v1f60b4d36c37bb50@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > Here is a nice overview of the mono project for those that are interested: > > http://ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2005/03/21/interviewmiguel.html > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Bergert wrote: > >> If this http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page then yes a little. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jim Hall wrote: >> >>> Before I get into anything lengthy, is anyone really familiar with >>> "mono"? If not, I won't go further. >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> > Very nice article, sounds like good potential. I'm trying to run a program called "Rawr". http://rawr.codeplex.com/ It comes as a zip file. The site seems to say it was written with .NET and he is trying to get Linux/Mac to run it with mono. Uh, ok. I used winetricks to install .NET2.0. I put the file in my Wine directory and tried to install it. No go (may be a Wine issue). So I extracted it. Made Wine aware of the two supplied dll's. Wine ran the exe. Program starts but is crippled - therefore useless. I would like to run it from mono (it is on my system). I've had a couple of suggestions from the wine list on how to run a program with mono, but they didn't work. Could it be so .NET specific that mono won't run it? Hope all that helps. Jim. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/39fed6ed/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From antiparadigm@gmail.com Sun Aug 23 22:30:42 2009 From: antiparadigm@gmail.com (Antiparadigm) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:30:42 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mono - first question In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908230743v664147d3v1f60b4d36c37bb50@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908210751s59232a39xc125e28331c7f72@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908211239u1f3aecf3i764b429ffc0650fe@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908230743v664147d3v1f60b4d36c37bb50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7554b1e0908231430m37cef0f8md2569ba1317cb85e@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment This is my first post to this LUG so Hello all! Here is a little bio: My name is Paul Allen (Unfortunatly, not _That_ Paul Allen) and I'm a recent grad from the University of Iowas Computer Science department. I'm currently employed at the UI Hospitals & Clinics as a System Administrator working on makeing the transition to application developer. I have been playing with linux since 1998, and while not a guru, I'm very comfortable in using it and have some background in linux systems (My Operating Systems class covered unix based systems and we used linux to test on.). I discovered the QCLUG while looking for Iowa LUGs and found it to be the closest. Now to the question, From the way it sounds, it might be a problem with mono. Currently MS .net is at 3.5 while Mono is usually a version behind, so it currently only impliments 2.0 fully. I may be wrong in this... Looking at http://www.mono-project.com, it can support up to 3.0 as of the 2.4 release and it says as of 2.6 it should support a lot of the upcoming .net 4.0 changes. There were some major changes from .net 3.0 to 3.5 so it still may be the cause of the problem. The developer should be able to work around them though. While I don't know if this will answer your question, I hope you find it informational. If anyone is more up to date on it, please let me know if I'm correct in this thinking. Thank you, Paul Allen On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > >> Here is a nice overview of the mono project for those that are interested: >> >> http://ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2005/03/21/interviewmiguel.html >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Bergert wrote: >> >>> If this http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page then yes a little. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jim Hall wrote: >>> >>>> Before I get into anything lengthy, is anyone really familiar with >>>> "mono"? If not, I won't go further. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>> >>> >> > Very nice article, sounds like good potential. > > I'm trying to run a program called "Rawr". > http://rawr.codeplex.com/ > It comes as a zip file. The site seems to say it was written with .NET and > he is trying to get Linux/Mac to run it with mono. Uh, ok. I used winetricks > to install .NET2.0. I put the file in my Wine directory and tried to install > it. No go (may be a Wine issue). So I extracted it. Made Wine aware of the > two supplied dll's. Wine ran the exe. Program starts but is crippled - > therefore useless. > > I would like to run it from mono (it is on my system). I've had a couple of > suggestions from the wine list on how to run a program with mono, but they > didn't work. Could it be so .NET specific that mono won't run it? > > Hope all that helps. > > Jim. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/df64954c/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 12:46:31 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:46:31 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mono - first question In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908230743v664147d3v1f60b4d36c37bb50@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908210738h75eaec98o50d5ea56e6455216@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908210751s59232a39xc125e28331c7f72@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0908211239u1f3aecf3i764b429ffc0650fe@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908230743v664147d3v1f60b4d36c37bb50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45224507-0D6B-498C-9F4B-E659845DB9EE@gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment The ReadMe has this on Mono on Mac/Linux: Rawr on Mac OS X / Linux ------------------------ NOTE: Rawr v3 is currently in development, and will run natively on OSX Intel. Until then... You can run Rawr using Mono. Mono is a set of libraries that mimic the .NET Framework, which Rawr is built on, allowing it to run on OSX (and Linux). However, unfortunately, it's extremely buggy. If you want to give it a try, please do, it very well may work just fine for you. For most users, running Rawr via some form of emulation (Boot Camp, VMWare Fusion, Parallels, etc) will give you the best results, though. That said, I'm doing what I can to make Rawr available to Mac users, and that means officially supporting running Rawr on OSX, via Mono. How to Run Rawr on OSX: 1) Install Mono (http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/ download.html) for Mac OS X. 1a) NOTE: At time of writing, Mono v2.4 is the latest, however, it's broken; use Mono v2.2 if you have issues with the latest version. 2) Unzip Rawr. 3) Open the Terminal, navigate to where you unzipped Rawr (look for basic guides to the Terminal, if you need help with that), and type 'mono Rawr.exe', and hit enter. That should launch Rawr for you. Mono has some problems, so I appreciate your patience as I work to try to make Rawr stable under Mono. I strongly suggest saving often for now. Known Issues: - Mono doesn't look perfect. It looks kinda ugly, and you'll see some weird graphical artifacts. I'll try to work around this as best I can, but it's going to take time. - Mono has some crashing problems. Things will be running fine, then all of a sudden, the whole app'll close. I can try to work around these bugs in Mono, but it's going to take time. - Tooltips on labels don't work in Mono. I'll see if I can work around this for a later version. At least for stats, you can work around this by using the Copy Character Stats to Clipboard feature. - The clipboard doesn't work under Mono. In the mean time, when running on Mono, Copy Character Stats to Clipboard will save the stats as 'stats.txt' in the folder with Rawr. - More issues, I'm sure. On Aug 23, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave Bergert > wrote: > Here is a nice overview of the mono project for those that are > interested: > > http://ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2005/03/21/interviewmiguel.html > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dave Bergert > wrote: > If this http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page then yes a little. > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jim Hall > wrote: > Before I get into anything lengthy, is anyone really familiar with > "mono"? If not, I won't go further. > > Jim > > > > Very nice article, sounds like good potential. > > I'm trying to run a program called "Rawr". > http://rawr.codeplex.com/ > It comes as a zip file. The site seems to say it was written > with .NET and he is trying to get Linux/Mac to run it with mono. Uh, > ok. I used winetricks to install .NET2.0. I put the file in my Wine > directory and tried to install it. No go (may be a Wine issue). So I > extracted it. Made Wine aware of the two supplied dll's. Wine ran > the exe. Program starts but is crippled - therefore useless. > > I would like to run it from mono (it is on my system). I've had a > couple of suggestions from the wine list on how to run a program > with mono, but they didn't work. Could it be so .NET specific that > mono won't run it? > > Hope all that helps. > > Jim. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/9950db3b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Tue Aug 25 23:23:45 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:23:45 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I'm starting a new religion: "I Hate Video Drivers" I decided to "update" the video driver on my Debian Etch comp from the Debian nvidia one to the latest nvidia one for my card (185.18.36). Card is a 7600GS and is supported by this driver. Uninstalled current driver and installed new one. All went well until reboot. GDM crashed and burned. Below is the "xorg.conf" file. Compared with a working one, but don't see anything jump out. Does anyone else see anything? Jim # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Fri Aug 14 17:54:58 PDT 2009 # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" 0 0 InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" EndSection Section "Files" # path to defoma fonts FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" EndSection Section "Module" Load "bitmap" Load "dbe" Load "ddc" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "record" Load "v4l" Load "vbe" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Princeton Ultra95e" HorizSync 28.0 - 49.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 7600]" Driver "nvidia" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 7600]" Monitor "Princeton Ultra95e" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b39f303e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From kruse.christopher@gmail.com Wed Aug 26 03:26:18 2009 From: kruse.christopher@gmail.com (Christopher Kruse) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:26:18 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion errors. If not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module loaded. It may be as simple as that. Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's specifically failing on. Cheers, Christopher On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > I'm starting a new religion: "I Hate Video Drivers" > > I decided to "update" the video driver on my Debian Etch comp from the > Debian nvidia one to the latest nvidia one for my card (185.18.36). Card = is > a 7600GS and is supported by this driver. Uninstalled current driver and > installed new one. All went well until reboot. GDM crashed and burned. Be= low > is the "xorg.conf" file. Compared with a working one, but don't see anyth= ing > jump out. Does anyone else see anything? > > Jim > > > # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig > # nvidia-xconfig:=A0 version 1.0=A0 (buildmeister@builder63)=A0 Fri Aug 1= 4 > 17:54:58 PDT 2009 > > # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) > # > # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, us= ing > # values from the debconf database. > # > # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page= . > # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) > # > # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *on= ly* > # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg > # package. > # > # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically upda= ted > # again, run the following command: > #=A0=A0 sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > > Section "ServerLayout" > =A0=A0=A0 Identifier=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Default Layout" > =A0=A0=A0 Screen=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Default Screen" 0 0 > =A0=A0=A0 InputDevice=A0=A0=A0 "Generic Keyboard" > =A0=A0=A0 InputDevice=A0=A0=A0 "Configured Mouse" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > > =A0=A0=A0 # path to defoma fonts > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrilli= c" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:uns= caled" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/= :unscaled" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unsc= aled" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:= unscaled" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" > =A0=A0=A0 FontPath=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf= .d/dirs/TrueType" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "bitmap" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "dbe" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "ddc" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "extmod" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "freetype" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "glx" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "int10" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "record" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "v4l" > =A0=A0=A0 Load=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "vbe" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > =A0=A0=A0 Identifier=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Generic Keyboard" > =A0=A0=A0 Driver=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "kbd" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "CoreKeyboard" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "XkbRules" "xorg" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "XkbModel" "pc104" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "XkbLayout" "us" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > =A0=A0=A0 Identifier=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Configured Mouse" > =A0=A0=A0 Driver=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "mouse" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "CorePointer" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Protocol" "ImPS/2" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > =A0=A0=A0 Identifier=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Princeton Ultra95e" > =A0=A0=A0 HorizSync=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 28.0 - 49.0 > =A0=A0=A0 VertRefresh=A0=A0=A0=A0 43.0 - 72.0 > =A0=A0=A0 Option=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > =A0=A0=A0 Identifier=A0=A0=A0=A0 "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 7600]" > =A0=A0=A0 Driver=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "nvidia" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > =A0=A0=A0 Identifier=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Default Screen" > =A0=A0=A0 Device=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForc= e 7600]" > =A0=A0=A0 Monitor=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Princeton Ultra95e" > =A0=A0=A0 DefaultDepth=A0=A0=A0 24 > =A0=A0=A0 SubSection=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Display" > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Depth=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Modes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > =A0=A0=A0 EndSubSection > =A0=A0=A0 SubSection=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Display" > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Depth=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 4 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Modes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > =A0=A0=A0 EndSubSection > =A0=A0=A0 SubSection=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Display" > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Depth=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 8 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Modes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > =A0=A0=A0 EndSubSection > =A0=A0=A0 SubSection=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Display" > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Depth=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 15 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Modes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > =A0=A0=A0 EndSubSection > =A0=A0=A0 SubSection=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Display" > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Depth=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 16 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Modes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > =A0=A0=A0 EndSubSection > =A0=A0=A0 SubSection=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Display" > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Depth=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 24 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Modes=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > =A0=A0=A0 EndSubSection > EndSection > From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Wed Aug 26 19:14:22 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:14:22 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Christopher Kruse < kruse.christopher@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary > blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion errors. If > not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module > loaded. It may be as simple as that. > > Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's > specifically failing on. > > Cheers, > > Christopher > > > > Results. dmesg is as pure as the driven snow. Kernel module is loaded. Xort.*.log shows no failures. Went through Nvidia's knowledge base, made a couple of changes in "xorg.conf", nothing. System boots fine until it gets to Xorg and GDM. Then get black screen. If go to a different runlevel I get a console, but all of Nvidia's config files are binary and need a GUI to work. Catch 22. Don't know what to try next. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/31dc066b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From QCAdmin@gmail.com Wed Aug 26 20:37:26 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:37:26 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Just throwing out a long shot, but have you tried booting on an older kernel in case the driver likes that, or there is an older version of the driver in that kernel's mods? On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Christopher Kruse > wrote: >> >> I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary >> blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion errors. =A0If >> not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module >> loaded. =A0It may be as simple as that. >> >> Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's >> specifically failing on. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Christopher >> >> >> > Results. dmesg is as pure as the driven snow. Kernel module is loaded. > Xort.*.log shows no failures. Went through Nvidia's knowledge base, made = a > couple of changes in "xorg.conf", nothing. > > System boots fine until it gets to Xorg and GDM. Then get black screen. I= f > go to a different runlevel I get a console, but all of Nvidia's config fi= les > are binary and need a GUI to work. Catch 22. > > Don't know what to try next. > > Jim > From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Wed Aug 26 21:27:34 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:27:34 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: > Just throwing out a long shot, but have you tried booting on an older > kernel in case the driver likes that, or there is an older version of > the driver in that kernel's mods? > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Christopher Kruse > > wrote: > >> > >> I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary > >> blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion errors. If > >> not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module > >> loaded. It may be as simple as that. > >> > >> Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's > >> specifically failing on. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Christopher > >> > >> > >> > > Results. dmesg is as pure as the driven snow. Kernel module is loaded. > > Xort.*.log shows no failures. Went through Nvidia's knowledge base, made > a > > couple of changes in "xorg.conf", nothing. > > > > System boots fine until it gets to Xorg and GDM. Then get black screen. > If > > go to a different runlevel I get a console, but all of Nvidia's config > files > > are binary and need a GUI to work. Catch 22. > > > > Don't know what to try next. > > > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > Just tried that. No difference. I believe that's because older linux kernel has older nvidia kernel module which doesn't match driver on HD. I'm fairly certain this is some stupid config problem, but I don't know what or where. Even if I got a 640x480 GUI, I'd have something to work with. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b41ecd06/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From barry@vonahsen.com Wed Aug 26 21:46:07 2009 From: barry@vonahsen.com (Barry Von Ahsen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:46:07 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A959F0F.8060600@vonahsen.com> > Just tried that. No difference. I believe that's because older linux kernel > has older nvidia kernel module which doesn't match driver on HD. > > I'm fairly certain this is some stupid config problem, but I don't know what > or where. Even if I got a 640x480 GUI, I'd have something to work with. I didn't quite follow, did you install the .run from nvidia.com, the debian package, or use module-assistant? I've got my 7900 working okay on lenny through module-assistant -barry From austinm@countrystone.com Wed Aug 26 21:44:22 2009 From: austinm@countrystone.com (Austin Mount) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:44:22 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A959EA6.1040700@countrystone.com> didn't read completely through your thread but just fyi the kernel module that is part of the vanilla source doesn't play nice with another one... not sure on your distro but in gentoo you build the kernel without any nvidia frame buffer support or otherwise then emerge nvidia-drivers and it builds and the proprietary drives makes and installs the proper kernel module... if you're running ubuntu or something with a live kernel that autodetects stuff it may be installing the module that is part of vanilla kernel source and then throwing up when loading the one from nvidia... anywho just a thought to look into... Austin D. Mount A.A.S., CompTIA A+, Compaq/HP APS Systems Administration Application Development Web Services Office(309)787-1744x220 Cell(309)737-2086 Jim Hall wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Chris Cooper > wrote: > > Just throwing out a long shot, but have you tried booting on an older > kernel in case the driver likes that, or there is an older version of > the driver in that kernel's mods? > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jim Hall > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Christopher Kruse > > > wrote: > >> > >> I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary > >> blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion > errors. If > >> not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module > >> loaded. It may be as simple as that. > >> > >> Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's > >> specifically failing on. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Christopher > >> > >> > >> > > Results. dmesg is as pure as the driven snow. Kernel module is > loaded. > > Xort.*.log shows no failures. Went through Nvidia's knowledge > base, made a > > couple of changes in "xorg.conf", nothing. > > > > System boots fine until it gets to Xorg and GDM. Then get black > screen. If > > go to a different runlevel I get a console, but all of Nvidia's > config files > > are binary and need a GUI to work. Catch 22. > > > > Don't know what to try next. > > > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Just tried that. No difference. I believe that's because older linux > kernel has older nvidia kernel module which doesn't match driver on HD. > > I'm fairly certain this is some stupid config problem, but I don't > know what or where. Even if I got a 640x480 GUI, I'd have something to > work with. > > Jim From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Wed Aug 26 22:12:27 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:12:27 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <4A959EA6.1040700@countrystone.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> <4A959EA6.1040700@countrystone.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0908261412t12c2f99aie535624c85155b5f@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Austin Mount wrote: > didn't read completely through your thread but just fyi the kernel module > that is part of the vanilla source doesn't play nice with another one... > > not sure on your distro but in gentoo you build the kernel without any > nvidia frame buffer support or otherwise then emerge nvidia-drivers and it > builds and the proprietary drives makes and installs the proper kernel > module... > > if you're running ubuntu or something with a live kernel that autodetects > stuff it may be installing the module that is part of vanilla kernel source > and then throwing up when loading the one from nvidia... > > anywho just a thought to look into... > > Austin D. Mount > A.A.S., CompTIA A+, Compaq/HP APS > Systems Administration > Application Development > Web Services > Office(309)787-1744x220 > Cell(309)737-2086 > > > Jim Hall wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Chris Cooper > QCAdmin@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Just throwing out a long shot, but have you tried booting on an older >> kernel in case the driver likes that, or there is an older version of >> the driver in that kernel's mods? >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jim Hall> > wrote: >> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Christopher Kruse >> > > > wrote: >> >> >> >> I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary >> >> blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion >> errors. If >> >> not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module >> >> loaded. It may be as simple as that. >> >> >> >> Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's >> >> specifically failing on. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Christopher >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Results. dmesg is as pure as the driven snow. Kernel module is >> loaded. >> > Xort.*.log shows no failures. Went through Nvidia's knowledge >> base, made a >> > couple of changes in "xorg.conf", nothing. >> > >> > System boots fine until it gets to Xorg and GDM. Then get black >> screen. If >> > go to a different runlevel I get a console, but all of Nvidia's >> config files >> > are binary and need a GUI to work. Catch 22. >> > >> > Don't know what to try next. >> > >> > Jim >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Just tried that. No difference. I believe that's because older linux >> kernel has older nvidia kernel module which doesn't match driver on HD. >> >> I'm fairly certain this is some stupid config problem, but I don't know >> what or where. Even if I got a 640x480 GUI, I'd have something to work with. >> >> Jim >> > _______________________________________________ > > I used the .run file from Nvidia. It worked on my Debian Lenny box. This one is Debian Etch. I ran lsmod and it says the correct nvidia kernel is installed as a module. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/201a0ba4/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From austinm@countrystone.com Thu Aug 27 03:56:46 2009 From: austinm@countrystone.com (Austin Mount) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:56:46 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Another video problem In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0908261412t12c2f99aie535624c85155b5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0908251523w3d636ec3ufded63d0ba5a8649@mail.gmail.com> <3595677a0908251926n7c5e19e8p460d2674a0484105@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261114w7dbfe464vef1c7083da795178@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0908261327p7a2c48d2x14f1c18de8830079@mail.gmail.com> <4A959EA6.1040700@countrystone.com> <997c8c1b0908261412t12c2f99aie535624c85155b5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment --=_968a550914008955f41cf2fb6afb2a48 if you get to the point where you give up or want a gui while your working on it you can use the vesa driver... should work for any modern card and give you 1024x768... i attached one of my xorg config for nvidia if it helps... its for dual screen w/ xinerama not twin view but might be useful to you... On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:12:27 -0500, Jim Hall wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Austin Mount wrote: didn't read completely through your thread but just fyi the kernel module that is part of the vanilla source doesn't play nice with another one... not sure on your distro but in gentoo you build the kernel without any nvidia frame buffer support or otherwise then emerge nvidia-drivers and it builds and the proprietary drives makes and installs the proper kernel module... if you're running ubuntu or something with a live kernel that autodetects stuff it may be installing the module that is part of vanilla kernel source and then throwing up when loading the one from nvidia... anywho just a thought to look into... Austin D. Mount A.A.S., CompTIA A+, Compaq/HP APS Systems Administration Application Development Web Services Office(309)787-1744x220 Cell(309)737-2086 Jim Hall wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Chris Cooper > wrote: Just throwing out a long shot, but have you tried booting on an older kernel in case the driver likes that, or there is an older version of the driver in that kernel's mods? On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jim Hall> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Christopher Kruse > > wrote: >> >> I'd make sure that the kernel is fully accepting the nvidia binary >> blob; check dmesg and see if it has any module insertion errors. If >> not, run `lsmod | grep nvidia` to see if you have the kernel module >> loaded. It may be as simple as that. >> >> Other culprits: check /var/log/Xorg.*.log to see what it's >> specifically failing on. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Christopher >> >> >> > Results. dmesg is as pure as the driven snow. Kernel module is loaded. > Xort.*.log shows no failures. Went through Nvidia's knowledge base, made a > couple of changes in "xorg.conf", nothing. > > System boots fine until it gets to Xorg and GDM. Then get black screen. If > go to a different runlevel I get a console, but all of Nvidia's config files > are binary and need a GUI to work. Catch 22. > > Don't know what to try next. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ Just tried that. No difference. I believe that's because older linux kernel has older nvidia kernel module which doesn't match driver on HD. I'm fairly certain this is some stupid config problem, but I don't know what or where. Even if I got a 640x480 GUI, I'd have something to work with. Jim _______________________________________________ I used the .run file from Nvidia. It worked on my Debian Lenny box. This one is Debian Etch. I ran lsmod and it says the correct nvidia kernel is installed as a module. Jim -- Austin D. 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