[QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors

Noah Norris preludelinux@gmail.com
Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:55:12 -0600


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Im glad we found the problem to be a hard drive and not a weird firmware or
bios bug. Feel free to post any questions you might have.

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Luis Gonzalez <ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com>wrote:

>  Thanks guys for all your help.  I went and bought a new hard drive and
> successfully installed UBUNTU 8.10 on it.  I am sure that I will have more
> questions as I start to learn Linux and configure my lap top.  Thanks again
> and look forward to the next meeting, although I feel we will be in touch
> before that.
>
> Luis
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Noah Norris <preludelinux@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> OK  from what we all could gather from seeing the hardware is that its
>> most likely a bad hard drive.
>>
>> IO errors where from the hard drive - during installs (with the ubuntu and
>> the Debian based partitioning disk) eventually we heard sounds of the
>> platter crashing !!!
>>
>> One way to test this is to use dells disk utility or find out the
>> manufacture of the hard drive and run its special dos based tools. these
>> tools can attemp to remap sectors and prolongs a failing drives life. i did
>> install smartmon tools its didnt seem to support online testing modes and
>> the log not being readable. ( you can try the ultimate boot cd it has a
>> couple disk based tools. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ )
>>
>> It seems vista never triggered this sound and there is no disk based
>> errors in the device manager (of course another test is to have vista use
>> the whole disk and start filling it and see if you get the same sound and
>> disk errors under system in the event log.  if this is a hard drive failing
>> it should fail at some point in windows another notice of a failing drive in
>> windows during your filling the hard drive is windows can just become
>> un-responsive and just plan lock up or super slow as it resets the drive and
>> trys to read the sector)
>>
>> i do have a dell laptop with sata hard drives and as a test i can see if
>> my drive would boot on your laptop. (the disk controlers pretty sure are the
>> same)
>> check out www.newegg.com i just replaced a failing drive for a persons
>> laptop and for like 70$ got like a 320GB drive.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Mike Robinson <fatpuppystew@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> thought I'd weigh in on this though I'm a noob myself compared to all
>>> the other advice your getting.
>>>
>>> That said, I ran into the same problem your facing on a Acer notebook.
>>> Did all the usual googling and found others with the same problem,
>>> though no solutions - best guess in the threads was a bios compatibility
>>> problem.  Still no joy after updating the bios and chipset drivers.
>>>
>>> Solution:  If your not locked into Ubuntu, try a different flavor of
>>> Linux.  Fedora and Ubuntu failed for me, but Suse worked (I still don't
>>> know how).
>>>
>>> If your interested go to the site below, download and create a live CD.
>>>
>>> http://software.opensuse.org/
>>>
>>> Mike Robinson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Luis Gonzalez <ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org
>>> To: qclug@qclug.org
>>> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:01:16 -0600
>>>
>>> Just tried the gparted live CD.  I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for
>>> Linux-Swap.  When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well.  I
>>> don't know what it can be.  It seems that it just doesn't want linux on
>>> it.   Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing
>>> happen, and lost VISTA and Everything.  But when I went to reinstall
>>> VISTA so that I can have an OS to work with, the installation went
>>> smooth.  I don't know if there is some kind of proprietary code not
>>> letting me install any other OS.  I will not give up on Linux, if I
>>> can't get it to work on this machine, then I will buy another that I can
>>> install it on.  Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek Squad might be able
>>> to help?  Thanks for all the help though.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>        Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using
>>>        the gparted live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        ________________________________________________________________
>>>        From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org]
>>>        On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez
>>>        Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM
>>>        To: qclug@qclug.org
>>>        Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        Erro Message:
>>>
>>>
>>>        Failed to create a file system
>>>
>>>
>>>        The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0)
>>>        (sda) failed.
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez
>>>        <ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>        This is the specs for the laptop below
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        Dell Inspiron 1525
>>>
>>>
>>>        160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE
>>>
>>>
>>>         INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ
>>>
>>>
>>>        RAM: 2038MB
>>>
>>>
>>>        32 bit Operating System
>>>
>>>
>>>        Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse
>>>        <t.shearouse@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>        Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB
>>>        range? There are some firmware issues with some recent
>>>        drives...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez
>>>        <ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>        I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no
>>>        errors.  I went and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided
>>>        using free space and got same error.  I know that once I quit
>>>        out it gives a black screen with two lines of code,  it goes so
>>>        fast that I can't remember what it says but I know it says
>>>        'FIRMWARE' in the lines.  I don't know what to do.  I can't even
>>>        have it take over my complete hard drive.  I tried two different
>>>        DVDs, one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one
>>>        with 8.04 that came with the book I bought.  I think I will have
>>>        to go shop for a new laptop just so that I can learn and enjoy
>>>        Linux, freeing myself for MS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel
>>>        <mriedesel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>        Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should
>>>        be an
>>>        option to check the disc integrity.
>>>
>>>
>>>        On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> wrote:
>>>        > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk.
>>>        You may need
>>>        > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use
>>>        the Ubuntu
>>>        > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend
>>>        downloading it
>>>        > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error
>>>        checking than http
>>>
>>>
>>>        > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com
>>>        <http://www.utorrent.com/> ) or
>>>
>>>        > something similar.
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >   _____
>>>        >
>>>        > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org]
>>>        On Behalf Of
>>>        > Luis Gonzalez
>>>        > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM
>>>        > To: qclug@qclug.org
>>>        > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        > All,
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >     I would like to know if anyone could help me with this
>>>        installation
>>>        > error.  I am currently running Vista and have tried to install
>>>        Ubuntu 8.10
>>>        > in order to dual boot.  I keep getting the following error. At
>>>        5% it says
>>>        > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have
>>>        tried it so
>>>        > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space.  I have
>>>        tried using
>>>        > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current
>>>        drive in vista to
>>>        > free up space for Ubuntu.  I keep getting the same error.  Can
>>>        anyone help.
>>>        > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC.  I
>>>        need to keep
>>>        > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu
>>>        and get rid
>>>        > of Windows all together.  Any help would be welcomed.  I live
>>>        in Davenport,
>>>        > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is
>>>        interested.
>>>        > Thank you in advance.
>>>        >
>>>        > --
>>>        > Luis J Gonzalez Jr.
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>
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