From crossguy@hotmail.com Wed Mar 3 04:37:18 2010 From: crossguy@hotmail.com (Ben Ziegler) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:37:18 +0000 Subject: [QCLUG] March meeting Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Is the c/c++ talk still scheduled for the March meeting? Ben Ziegler-- eigenmeister.blogspot.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/= ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/85c718a7/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From crossguy@hotmail.com Fri Mar 5 18:33:13 2010 From: crossguy@hotmail.com (Ben Ziegler) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:33:13 +0000 Subject: [QCLUG] March events and a question Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment QC 2600 meets tonight=2C Mar 5 from 5-8 pm at Cool Beanz Coffee House 1325 = 30th Street Rock Island. Come out and talk security=2C programming=2C engineering=2C s= cience=2C etc. Wifi available=2C plus our own LAN for demos. =20 If that's not enough geeky goodness for you=2C March 20 is Build Day 2.0. = Stop in at 1207 95th Avenue West in Rock Island anytime from 9am to midnigh= t. Bring yourself=2C your friends=2C projects=2C and cool ideas. Food/dri= nk=2C internet access=2C power=2C space=2C and some *nix workstations provi= ded. Donations welcome (comestibles=2C cash=2C hardware). Last time we ha= d 8 people out working on 3D printers=2C server builds=2C chemistry=2C biot= ech=2C board games and more! And lastly=2C to remain topical=2C a linux question: I have several machin= es running various flavors of debian and ubuntu=2C so I've setup apt-proxy = on a server and edited /etc/apt/sources.list on the other machines to point= to the proxy. Even one machine updating will time out and miss headers=2C= but I've noticed the updater app is still pulling updates from somewhere e= lse. Summary: What's the recommended way to cache apt on a LAN? Ben Ziegler --=20 (309)-252-8315 eigenmeister.blogspot.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/= ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/176d87b5/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Fri Mar 5 18:42:38 2010 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:42:38 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] March events and a question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1c9537491003051042j38ebf748ve784544510e8ff9e@mail.gmail.com> Using squid is a fairly common and straightforward method, it can be configured to store .debs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D155227 http://www.debian-administration.org/polls/139 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Ben Ziegler wrote: > QC 2600 meets tonight, Mar 5 from 5-8 pm at Cool Beanz Coffee House 1325 > 30th Street > Rock Island.=C2=A0 Come out and talk security, programming, engineering, = science, > etc.=C2=A0 Wifi available, plus our own LAN for demos. > > If that's not enough geeky goodness for you, March 20 is Build Day 2.0. > Stop in at 1207 95th Avenue West in Rock Island anytime from 9am to > midnight.=C2=A0 Bring yourself, your friends, projects, and cool ideas. > Food/drink, internet access, power, space, and some *nix workstations > provided.=C2=A0 Donations welcome (comestibles, cash, hardware).=C2=A0 La= st time we > had 8 people out working on 3D printers, server builds, chemistry, biotec= h, > board games and more! > > And lastly, to remain topical, a linux question:=C2=A0 I have several mac= hines > running various flavors of debian and ubuntu, so I've setup apt-proxy on = a > server and edited /etc/apt/sources.list on the other machines to point to > the proxy.=C2=A0 Even one machine updating will time out and miss headers= , but > I've noticed the updater app is still pulling updates from somewhere else= . > Summary:=C2=A0 What's the recommended way to cache apt on a LAN? > > > Ben Ziegler > -- > (309)-252-8315 > eigenmeister.blogspot.com > > ________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sun Mar 7 14:42:47 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:42:47 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] March program Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003070642icdff8c3hc73a37ae530cadb0@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Would our presenter like me to try to borrow a projector? I need to know ASAP. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/c7c2c8d2/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From combustioninc@yahoo.com Mon Mar 8 00:33:46 2010 From: combustioninc@yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:33:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [QCLUG] March Program Message-ID: <599666.90521.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> All=0A=0AI started on some code development to use as a teaching tool but I= haven't finished because I got dragged into=0Agiving a huge presentation t= his Wednesday at my company headquarters at the last minute.=0A=0AI think i= t's best for both me and our club that I split my presentation between the = March and the April meetings.=0AIs it ok with everyone that I talk for abou= t 45 minutes this Tuesday and then another 45 minutes during the April=0Ame= eting.=A0 That will let everyone practice the little bit I teach at the fir= st meeting during the time between meetings=0Aand/or to install the c++ com= piler on their linux box if they haven't already.=0A=0AIf this is ok with e= veryone, then, yes, I do need a projector for this Tuesday.=A0 I suggest we= spend the second half of the=0Ameeting hearing from Agomotto and deciding = on a Web Service.=0A=0ABob=0A=0A=0A From QCAdmin@gmail.com Mon Mar 8 21:40:27 2010 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:40:27 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] 2600 Is moving! Message-ID: I just wanted to let everyone know that the Quad Cities 2600 chapter has finally found itself a home thanks to the Quad Cities Technology Consortium. Our new mailing list is available at: http://lists.qctech.org/listinfo.cgi/qc2600-qctech.org I encourage everyone to sign up for our mailing list so we can notify you of upcoming events, and have a general place to discuss things between meetings. For those who don't know about 2600, it is a group much like the LUG, but with a focus on exploration and learning the inner workings of the world. We are the type that love to take things apart just to see how they work. Some of our meeting topics have included: building 3d fabrication printers, home servers, custom firewalls, network security, physical security, molecular chemistry, High Voltage, Tesla Coils, and various other hacks, tweaks, and custom builds. We meet the first Friday of the month, at Cool Beanz Coffee House in Rock Island. If you can't make it to the meetings, the mailing list should still be a good place to keep up with the discussions. Thank you all for letting us post here until we got our feet on the floor. You are all welcome to crash our mailing list anytime. Chris Cooper From dbergert@gmail.com Mon Mar 8 21:49:37 2010 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:49:37 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] 2600 Is moving! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44262bfc1003081349s682cbdact42dc30549d0b703b@mail.gmail.com> That's "Off the Hook" ! On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: > I just wanted to let everyone know that the Quad Cities 2600 chapter > has finally found itself a home thanks to the Quad Cities Technology > Consortium. > > Our new mailing list is available at: > http://lists.qctech.org/listinfo.cgi/qc2600-qctech.org > > I encourage everyone to sign up for our mailing list so we can notify > you of upcoming events, and have a general place to discuss things > between meetings. =A0For those who don't know about 2600, it is a group > much like the LUG, but with a focus on exploration and learning the > inner workings of the world. =A0We are the type that love to take things > apart just to see how they work. > > Some of our meeting topics have included: building 3d fabrication > printers, home servers, custom firewalls, network security, physical > security, molecular chemistry, High Voltage, Tesla Coils, and various > other hacks, tweaks, and custom builds. > > We meet the first Friday of the month, at Cool Beanz Coffee House in > Rock Island. =A0If you can't make it to the meetings, the mailing list > should still be a good place to keep up with the discussions. > > Thank you all for letting us post here until we got our feet on the > floor. =A0You are all welcome to crash our mailing list anytime. > > Chris Cooper > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From dbergert@gmail.com Tue Mar 9 15:05:16 2010 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:05:16 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Central Authentication Server - mixed environment Message-ID: <44262bfc1003090705h6429856oc4723dfb342cefe6@mail.gmail.com> Does any one have any experience or any comments regarding doing something like this: http://www.interopsystems.com/LearningCenter/Native_LDAP_native_Kerberos_and_AD_services.htm For a rack of linux servers to help meet compliance needs (Central Authentication)- or is a native openldap solution the way to go - and maintain separate MS and UNIX environments ? From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Mar 9 15:10:39 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:10:39 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Central Authentication Server - mixed environment In-Reply-To: <44262bfc1003090705h6429856oc4723dfb342cefe6@mail.gmail.com> References: <44262bfc1003090705h6429856oc4723dfb342cefe6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE73177@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> I've used that technique to integrate a dial-in Linux server to an active d= irectory domain. I also make extensive use of active directory integratio= n in my CIPAFilter product line. It does work. It is complicated, somewh= at prone to issues, but once set up properly it works well. If you plan to= use it make sure you take the time to completely understand PAM inside and= out, because you will be forced to debug authentication relation issues fr= om time to time. It's a "niche" solution, so expect to have to work for it= . That being said, personally I would keep those worlds separate for the simp= le reason that you don't usually have the same people in charge of both sys= tems, but if you have to do it for compliance reasons it can be done. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of= Dave Bergert Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:05 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Central Authentication Server - mixed environment Does any one have any experience or any comments regarding doing something like this: http://www.interopsystems.com/LearningCenter/Native_LDAP_native_Kerberos_an= d_AD_services.htm For a rack of linux servers to help meet compliance needs (Central Authentication)- or is a native openldap solution the way to go - and maintain separate MS and UNIX environments ? _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Mar 9 16:28:18 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:28:18 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Facebook Puzzles and Linux Message-ID: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE7318F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I wanted to share this with you guys because I thought it was very neat. = As you all know, I'm looking for new employment as I've resigned from my cu= rrent position effective Dec 31, 2010. This leaves me with plenty of time to find new employment while I train my = replacements. One of the places I've contacted is Facebook. They have a= really neat process that involves asking applicants to solve a programming= puzzle. The puzzles are great fun, and are all intended to be solved in = a Linux environment. Basically, you need to write software that conforms to a specific standard = and solves a specific puzzle by itself. You email the code into facebook a= nd a bot compiles and runs your code against the puzzle dataset and evaluat= es your performance which is then forwarded to HR. The puzzles are lots of fun, I've actually found myself just doing them fo= r kicks, but they're not easy! I'm going to tackle dinosaur island tonigh= t. http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/974f8a17/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Tue Mar 9 16:43:03 2010 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:43:03 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Facebook Puzzles and Linux In-Reply-To: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE7318F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> References: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE7318F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> Message-ID: <44262bfc1003090843y7daf4ce3u29d5dd6aa5e04807@mail.gmail.com> Let me know your thoughts on Thrift and Cassandra - if you are required to implement those technologies in any of the puzzles you perform. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David Hinkle wrote= : > I wanted to share this with you guys because I thought it was very neat. > As you all know, I=92m looking for new employment as I=92ve resigned from= my > current position effective Dec 31, 2010. > > > > This leaves me with plenty of time to find new employment while I train m= y > replacements.=A0=A0 One of the places I=92ve contacted is Facebook.=A0=A0= They have a > really neat process that involves asking applicants to solve a programmin= g > puzzle.=A0=A0 The puzzles are great fun, and are all intended to be solve= d in a > Linux environment. > > > > Basically, you need to write software that conforms to a specific standar= d > and solves a specific puzzle by itself.=A0 You email the code into facebo= ok > and a bot compiles and runs your code against the puzzle dataset and > evaluates your performance which is then forwarded to HR. > > > > The puzzles are lots of fun,=A0 I=92ve actually found myself just doing t= hem for > kicks, but they=92re not easy!=A0=A0 I=92m going to tackle dinosaur islan= d tonight. > > > > http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php > > > > From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Mar 9 16:51:52 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:51:52 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Facebook Puzzles and Linux In-Reply-To: <44262bfc1003090843y7daf4ce3u29d5dd6aa5e04807@mail.gmail.com> References: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE7318F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> <44262bfc1003090843y7daf4ce3u29d5dd6aa5e04807@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE73198@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> I've used thrift in three puzzles so far. SimonSays, RushHour, and Battle= ship.=20 I did all three in php (My personal favorite scripting language) and I foun= d the biggest challenge to be the lack of thrift documentation for php. It= seems much better for the other languages but I couldn't find so much as a= code snippet on the thrift website.=20 I did finally find a third party website where a person posted a php snippe= t, so with that and some trial and error, (Along with reading of the actual= compiled thrift code) I was able to get everything figured out. After that, I compiled the thrift template into php and it was off to the r= aces. Writing a network software client has never been so easy. I finishe= d each puzzle in a matter of hours. These three puzzles really only teste= d the ability to adapt to and use the thrift library. The actual code you'= re asked to implement is nothing difficult, and as I've had extensive netwo= rk programming experience I found them to be easy and fun. I do have to say I expected some stronger type error checking. At one poin= t I got hung up because I was passing an array in a method thrift didn't li= ke, but was not receiving any error messages to that effect. Once I figur= ed out what it needed everything was fine. I imagine this would be much l= ess of a problem in strongly typed languages such as C. I haven't written a server, or my own thrift spec, but as far as just opera= ting as a consumer of services, it was really nice and easy. I can see how= a large organization with many developers would want to build their intern= al infrastructure on a system such as this. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of= Dave Bergert Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:43 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Facebook Puzzles and Linux Let me know your thoughts on Thrift and Cassandra - if you are required to implement those technologies in any of the puzzles you perform. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David Hinkle wrote= : > I wanted to share this with you guys because I thought it was very neat. > As you all know, I'm looking for new employment as I've resigned from my > current position effective Dec 31, 2010. > > > > This leaves me with plenty of time to find new employment while I train m= y > replacements.=A0=A0 One of the places I've contacted is Facebook.=A0=A0 T= hey have a > really neat process that involves asking applicants to solve a programmin= g > puzzle.=A0=A0 The puzzles are great fun, and are all intended to be solve= d in a > Linux environment. > > > > Basically, you need to write software that conforms to a specific standar= d > and solves a specific puzzle by itself.=A0 You email the code into facebo= ok > and a bot compiles and runs your code against the puzzle dataset and > evaluates your performance which is then forwarded to HR. > > > > The puzzles are lots of fun,=A0 I've actually found myself just doing the= m for > kicks, but they're not easy!=A0=A0 I'm going to tackle dinosaur island to= night. > > > > http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php > > > > _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From dbergert@gmail.com Tue Mar 9 21:06:19 2010 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:06:19 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Facebook Puzzles and Linux In-Reply-To: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE73198@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> References: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE7318F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> <44262bfc1003090843y7daf4ce3u29d5dd6aa5e04807@mail.gmail.com> <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE73198@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> Message-ID: <44262bfc1003091306x4b24131cte83a916816494c2c@mail.gmail.com> Cool - Thanks for Sharing this -- I'll have to try a few of these. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:51 AM, David Hinkle wrote= : > I've used thrift in three puzzles so far. =A0 SimonSays, RushHour, and Ba= ttleship. > > I did all three in php (My personal favorite scripting language) and I fo= und the biggest challenge to be the lack of thrift documentation for php. = =A0It seems much better for the other languages but I couldn't find so much= as a code snippet on the thrift website. > > I did finally find a third party website where a person posted a php snip= pet, so with that and some trial and error, (Along with reading of the actu= al compiled thrift code) I was able to get everything figured out. > > After that, I compiled the thrift template into php and it was off to the= races. =A0Writing a network software client has never been so easy. =A0I f= inished each puzzle in a matter of hours. =A0 These three puzzles really on= ly tested the ability to adapt to and use the thrift library. =A0The actual= code you're asked to implement is nothing difficult, and as I've had exten= sive network programming experience I found them to be easy and fun. > > I do have to say I expected some stronger type error checking. =A0At one = point I got hung up because I was passing an array in a method thrift didn'= t like, but was not receiving any error messages to that effect. =A0 Once I= figured out what it needed everything was fine. =A0 I imagine this would b= e much less of a problem in strongly typed languages such as C. > > I haven't written a server, or my own thrift spec, but as far as just ope= rating as a consumer of services, it was really nice and easy. =A0I can see= how a large organization with many developers would want to build their in= ternal infrastructure on a system such as this. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf = Of Dave Bergert > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:43 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Facebook Puzzles and Linux > > Let me know your thoughts on Thrift and Cassandra - if you are > required to implement those technologies in any of the puzzles you > perform. > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David Hinkle wro= te: >> I wanted to share this with you guys because I thought it was very neat. >> As you all know, I'm looking for new employment as I've resigned from my >> current position effective Dec 31, 2010. >> >> >> >> This leaves me with plenty of time to find new employment while I train = my >> replacements.=A0=A0 One of the places I've contacted is Facebook.=A0=A0 = They have a >> really neat process that involves asking applicants to solve a programmi= ng >> puzzle.=A0=A0 The puzzles are great fun, and are all intended to be solv= ed in a >> Linux environment. >> >> >> >> Basically, you need to write software that conforms to a specific standa= rd >> and solves a specific puzzle by itself.=A0 You email the code into faceb= ook >> and a bot compiles and runs your code against the puzzle dataset and >> evaluates your performance which is then forwarded to HR. >> >> >> >> The puzzles are lots of fun,=A0 I've actually found myself just doing th= em for >> kicks, but they're not easy!=A0=A0 I'm going to tackle dinosaur island t= onight. >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From hinkle@cipafilter.com Wed Mar 10 19:07:41 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:07:41 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Code Bubbles Message-ID: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE732F1@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment This idea rocks. http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/acb/codebubbles_site.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/0aaf01dd/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Thu Mar 11 19:30:02 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:30:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation Message-ID: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE733C9@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment After bob's presentation I decided to do my next few Linux projects in C++= so that I can master the language. While working on my first one I came = across this: http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-4/ovp.html This excellent guide really gets into the nitty gritty of class allocation/= deallocation and is awesome for making the transition from "I can produce c= ode in C++ that gets work" done to "I've mastered the language and I unders= tand everything that's going on". It is primarily class focused, on the mechanics of allocation, deallocation= , polymorphism and operator overrides, which was perfect for me because I a= lready have a very strong background in C. Btw, for those that weren't present. Bob's presentation is expected to co= ntinue at the next meeting. The meeting following I'll give a contrastin= g lecture on "Getting started with PHP" that will demonstrate how to write = a simple program in PHP to output a web page. This will be "contrasting" b= ecause PHP and C++ take very different approaches, both at opposite ends of= the spectrum. David ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/67c86c08/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From crossguy@hotmail.com Thu Mar 11 20:04:27 2010 From: crossguy@hotmail.com (Ben Ziegler) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:04:27 +0000 Subject: [QCLUG] C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation In-Reply-To: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE733C9@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> References: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE733C9@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Will any of these talks have slides/video/outlines=2C etc. available? Ben Ziegler From: hinkle@cipafilter.com To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu=2C 11 Mar 2010 13:30:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation After bob=92s presentation I decided to do my next few Linux projects in C++ so that I can master the language. While working on my first one I came across this: =20 http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-4/ovp.html =20 This excellent guide really gets into the nitty gritty of class allocation/deallocation and is awesome for making the transition from= =93I can produce code in C++ that gets work=94 done to =93I=92ve mastered the language and I understand everything that=92s going on=94. =20 It is primarily class focused=2C on the mechanics of allocation=2C deallocation=2C polymorphism and operator overrides=2C which = was perfect for me because I already have a very strong background in C. =20 Btw=2C for those that weren=92t present. Bob=92s presentation is expected to continue at the next meeting. The meeting following I=92ll give a contrasting lecture on =93Getting started with PHP=94 that will demonstrate how to write a simple program in = PHP to output a web page. This will be =93contrasting=94 because PHP and C++ take very different approaches=2C both at opposite ends of the spec= trum. =20 David =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/= ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/1369b9cb/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Thu Mar 11 20:06:53 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:06:53 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation In-Reply-To: References: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE733C9@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> Message-ID: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE733D4@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Probably not, we haven't gotten so professional at this that we're recordin= g the lectures. If anybody would like to bring a video camera to my PHP l= ecture, they'd be welcome to record it and put it online. David From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of= Ben Ziegler Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:04 PM To: QC LUG Subject: RE: [QCLUG] C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation Will any of these talks have slides/video/outlines, etc. available? Ben Ziegler ________________________________ From: hinkle@cipafilter.com To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:30:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation After bob's presentation I decided to do my next few Linux projects in C++= so that I can master the language. While working on my first one I came = across this: http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds1-4/ovp.html This excellent guide really gets into the nitty gritty of class allocation/= deallocation and is awesome for making the transition from "I can produce c= ode in C++ that gets work" done to "I've mastered the language and I unders= tand everything that's going on". It is primarily class focused, on the mechanics of allocation, deallocation= , polymorphism and operator overrides, which was perfect for me because I a= lready have a very strong background in C. Btw, for those that weren't present. Bob's presentation is expected to co= ntinue at the next meeting. The meeting following I'll give a contrastin= g lecture on "Getting started with PHP" that will demonstrate how to write = a simple program in PHP to output a web page. This will be "contrasting" b= ecause PHP and C++ take very different approaches, both at opposite ends of= the spectrum. David ________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up n= ow. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/094352a9/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From combustioninc@yahoo.com Mon Mar 15 23:09:11 2010 From: combustioninc@yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QCLUG] qclug C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation Message-ID: <21952.79388.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> All=0A=0AI sent out the gzipped tar file for two versions of the source cod= e.=A0 I don't understand why it hasn't yet appeared=0Ain the archives of th= e web site.=A0 Is it because there was an attachment?=A0 What is going on?= =A0 Jim can you explain=0Awhy my e-mail to the QCLUG with the attachment is= n't appearing there?=0A=0ABob=0A=0A=0A From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Mar 15 23:28:50 2010 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:28:50 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] qclug C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation In-Reply-To: <21952.79388.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <21952.79388.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1c9537491003151628t19ff0f9bj175a0614839082af@mail.gmail.com> I'm pretty sure you can't post things with attachments to the mailing list. Alternatively, I would suggest putting the tarball on your own machine, or perhaps one of the many free file hosting sites and providing a link in a mailing list post. Mark On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Bob wrote: > All > > I sent out the gzipped tar file for two versions of the source code.=C2= =A0 I don't understand why it hasn't yet appeared > in the archives of the web site.=C2=A0 Is it because there was an attachm= ent?=C2=A0 What is going on?=C2=A0 Jim can you explain > why my e-mail to the QCLUG with the attachment isn't appearing there? > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From combustioninc@yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 04:23:00 2010 From: combustioninc@yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QCLUG] Re: C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation Message-ID: <149991.65348.qm@web57603.mail.re1.yahoo.com> QCLUG Members,=0A=0AI sent a core group of the QCLUG members an e-mail with= my tarball of my source code for my presentation=0AI gave in my last meeti= ng.=A0 I did not intend to exclude members who were present at the meeting = but=0Aif you are interested in getting the tarball please e-mail me directl= y.=A0 You will inherit some HOMEWORK=0Aif=A0you do express an interest in g= etting the tarball.!!!!=A0 One last thing--I am limiting the distribution t= o=0AU.S. citizens so when you make your request for the source code tarball= , please confirm you are a U.S.=0Acitizen.=0A=0ABob=0A=0A=0A From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Tue Mar 16 14:55:42 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:55:42 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Fwd: tech fair for 2010? In-Reply-To: <574956371003150821k5313796y5ae5daf3b70b378c@mail.gmail.com> References: <574956371001120852i2e54c0a6k450fe19d17e299e7@mail.gmail.com> <601AD1C899A3B642A972DE9A4ADC9AED0548C8F9@sauexbe1.ambrose.sau.edu> <574956371003150750x5f95ec38l22cce34a2440b7db@mail.gmail.com> <601AD1C899A3B642A972DE9A4ADC9AED057EBBFB@sauexbe1.ambrose.sau.edu> <574956371003150821k5313796y5ae5daf3b70b378c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003160755k29bb1a70kd528582fe9eebca7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment St. Ambrose is holding a Tech Fair again this year. It sounds like they hav= e learned some things from previous years. If so. it might be a good showcase for us. I'm sending the entire conversation from the QCMUG as I received it= . Both sides top posted so you'll have to start at the bottom. My top post is only so you know why the list is getting this. So, do we want to do something?? Jim ************************************************************** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Keith Claussen Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM Subject: Fwd: tech fair for 2010? To: Jim Hall Jim: Please pass this on to the LUG. Thanks. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brown Lori R(IT) Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:05 AM Subject: RE: tech fair for 2010? To: Keith Claussen Keith, That is good timing. We finalized our plans this past Friday. We are changing the format a little from previous years. We will be inviting our vendors and user groups in on Tuesday April 6thth from 10:00am =E2=80=93 2:= 00pm. I=E2=80=99ll be sending out specific information to everyone in the next we= ek. You=E2=80=99ll have an 8=E2=80=99 banquet table. We will have the fair in = the lower level of Cosgrove Hall just outside the IT offices. We have the cafeteria in thi= s building and get much more traffic flow with everyone going to lunch. We have a visitor parking lot outside of our building. We will also be settin= g up wireless in the lounge for our events that week. Let me know if you hav= e any questions. Donna is working on the publicity right now and we will be getting additional information out to you soon. Thanks, Lori *From:* Keith Claussen [mailto:kmac1036@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 9:50 AM *To:* Brown Lori R(IT) *Subject:* Re: tech fair for 2010? Hi, I was wondering if you had any updates to share. The QCMUG is still interested in participating, if possible. Thanks. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Brown Lori R(IT) wrote: Keith, We are just now starting on the details. We have decided this year to do things a little differently than in the past. Vendors are not able to travel as much and give donations because of the economy. We are looking a= t doing 2hour sessions each day. Each day will focus on one type of thing. We talked about having one session that was just user groups and support. As we work through things in the next couple of weeks I will update you. W= e are tentatively looking at the week of April 7th. Lori *From:* Keith Claussen [mailto:kmac1036@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:53 AM *To:* Brown Lori R(IT) *Subject:* tech fair for 2010? Hello, I'm Keith Claussen & contacting you on the behalf of the Quad City Mac User= s Group. I was given your name as a contact from Amy Jones about the annual Tech Fair. We had dealt with a Derek before. Last year, we were notified with about 24 hours notice. the prior year was only a couple days. Our emails to him abou= t this years event, so far, have not received a response. Is the Tech Fair being held again this year & when? The QCMUG is more than willing to participate. Please let me know if you have any info to share. Thanks! Keith Claussen Secretary, QCMUG SAU COMM '05 Alum ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/255649bc/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Tue Mar 16 15:02:01 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:02:01 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] qclug C++ Programming and Bob's Presentation In-Reply-To: <1c9537491003151628t19ff0f9bj175a0614839082af@mail.gmail.com> References: <21952.79388.qm@web57602.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1c9537491003151628t19ff0f9bj175a0614839082af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003160802w596ac46xf6d5684ebe4cfc43@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > I'm pretty sure you can't post things with attachments to the mailing list. > > Alternatively, I would suggest putting the tarball on your own > machine, or perhaps one of the many free file hosting sites and > providing a link in a mailing list post. > > Mark > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Bob wrote: > > All > > > > I sent out the gzipped tar file for two versions of the source code. I > don't understand why it hasn't yet appeared > > in the archives of the web site. Is it because there was an attachment? > What is going on? Jim can you explain > > why my e-mail to the QCLUG with the attachment isn't appearing there? > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > Mark's idea is a good one for sending code. The attachment did show up for me. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/3ab9d2e8/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Mar 16 17:14:05 2010 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:14:05 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Fwd: tech fair for 2010? 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URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/3d102e04/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From combustioninc@yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 04:29:33 2010 From: combustioninc@yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QCLUG] Bob's C++ Presentation--A C++ Primer Part II Message-ID: <872591.77116.qm@web57601.mail.re1.yahoo.com> All I saw a lot of interest (and maybe a little impatience) in "A C++ Primer, Part I" at our last meeting. I hope all of you who are interested have already unpacked the tarball and are maybe doing a little homework ?!!! If people do a little "homework" we can hear how it went with a few of you at the start of our next meeting... Can I get support for taking up the entire 90 minutes for the April QCLUG meeting to present "A C++ Primer, Part II" ? Any nays ? Bob From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sat Mar 20 16:05:23 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:05:23 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I've been asked about putting Adove Reader 9 on a Linux system because the job will soon require it. My question is: what in ver 9 is so compelling that its use is being forced (other that the workplace is Win based)? Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/a5f62a2a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From QCAdmin@gmail.com Sat Mar 20 16:10:08 2010 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:10:08 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Very simple, almost nothing. Most people don't realize that there are alternatives to Adobe Reader for opening PDF's. They thing if you don't have Adobe Reader, you can't open the file (because that is what Adobe tells them). That said, I have run into compatibility issues with PDF forms (that you fill out inside the reader) and some of the free alternatives, so test them out first before you settle on a program. Cooper On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > I've been asked about putting Adove Reader 9 on a Linux system because the > job will soon require it. My question is: what in ver 9 is so compelling > that its use is being forced (other that the workplace is Win based)? > > Jim > From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sat Mar 20 16:35:57 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:35:57 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Chris Cooper wrote: > Very simple, almost nothing. Most people don't realize that there are > alternatives to Adobe Reader for opening PDF's. They thing if you > don't have Adobe Reader, you can't open the file (because that is what > Adobe tells them). > > That said, I have run into compatibility issues with PDF forms (that > you fill out inside the reader) and some of the free alternatives, so > test them out first before you settle on a program. > > > Cooper > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Jim Hall > wrote: > > I've been asked about putting Adove Reader 9 on a Linux system because > the > > job will soon require it. My question is: what in ver 9 is so compelling > > that its use is being forced (other that the workplace is Win based)? > > > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > You and I know that, but work says "get 9". All the readers in the repositories are already installed. There is a Linux .bin for 9 on Adobe's site, but I don't want to use it unless I have to (on the theory that if its not needed, why bother?). I'll see if I can get something sent from work to check out. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b7c4c026/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sat Mar 20 19:58:51 2010 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:58:51 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1581003201258l7b7a8db9x76cc4385219e0dc9@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment make sure they have one without all the bugs adobe always lags with linux support and i know there many bugs with reader it might be a security risk to install it ... i've never installed it recently i've never had a problem with pdf just working with default readers. also just because its installed does not mean you have to use it if the default pdf readers work fine. is adobe reader really needed anymore i thought the pdf format was an more open or open format? On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Chris Cooper wrote: > >> Very simple, almost nothing. Most people don't realize that there are >> alternatives to Adobe Reader for opening PDF's. They thing if you >> don't have Adobe Reader, you can't open the file (because that is what >> Adobe tells them). >> >> That said, I have run into compatibility issues with PDF forms (that >> you fill out inside the reader) and some of the free alternatives, so >> test them out first before you settle on a program. >> >> >> Cooper >> >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Jim Hall >> wrote: >> > I've been asked about putting Adove Reader 9 on a Linux system because >> the >> > job will soon require it. My question is: what in ver 9 is so compelling >> > that its use is being forced (other that the workplace is Win based)? >> > >> > Jim >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > You and I know that, but work says "get 9". All the readers in the > repositories are already installed. There is a Linux .bin for 9 on Adobe's > site, but I don't want to use it unless I have to (on the theory that if its > not needed, why bother?). I'll see if I can get something sent from work to > check out. > > Jim > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/f3470b88/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From arronlorenz@gmail.com Sun Mar 21 03:12:47 2010 From: arronlorenz@gmail.com (Arron Lorenz) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:12:47 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: <65dc1581003201258l7b7a8db9x76cc4385219e0dc9@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1581003201258l7b7a8db9x76cc4385219e0dc9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <30cf66b31003202012i583e78cci4ea1bd310a592338@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I would not install Adobe Reader 9 even if it were for a job, and even if it were the Linux binary for it. Quit. That being said I'm with Cooper. I highly doubt that they actually need you to have the Adobe product installed, that is just what the salesman told them. On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > make sure they have one without all the bugs adobe always lags with linux > support and i know there many bugs with reader it might be a security risk > to install it ... i've never installed it recently i've never had a problem > with pdf just working with default readers. > > also just because its installed does not mean you have to use it if the > default pdf readers work fine. is adobe reader really needed anymore i > thought the pdf format was an more open or open format? > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Chris Cooper wrote: >> >>> Very simple, almost nothing. Most people don't realize that there are >>> alternatives to Adobe Reader for opening PDF's. They thing if you >>> don't have Adobe Reader, you can't open the file (because that is what >>> Adobe tells them). >>> >>> That said, I have run into compatibility issues with PDF forms (that >>> you fill out inside the reader) and some of the free alternatives, so >>> test them out first before you settle on a program. >>> >>> >>> Cooper >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Jim Hall >>> wrote: >>> > I've been asked about putting Adove Reader 9 on a Linux system because >>> the >>> > job will soon require it. My question is: what in ver 9 is so >>> compelling >>> > that its use is being forced (other that the workplace is Win based)? >>> > >>> > Jim >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> >> You and I know that, but work says "get 9". All the readers in the >> repositories are already installed. There is a Linux .bin for 9 on Adobe's >> site, but I don't want to use it unless I have to (on the theory that if its >> not needed, why bother?). I'll see if I can get something sent from work to >> check out. >> >> Jim >> > > -- From: Arron James Lorenz http://ArronLorenz.com (563) 4470-AJL Reel to Reel Drive-In DavenportDriveIn.com Profit is only profitable to the extent that you can use it ~Timothy Ferris ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/1a82bbee/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Mon Mar 22 02:59:53 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:59:53 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: <30cf66b31003202012i583e78cci4ea1bd310a592338@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1581003201258l7b7a8db9x76cc4385219e0dc9@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b31003202012i583e78cci4ea1bd310a592338@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003211959w14eca545le3187668fce32d4d@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Arron Lorenz wrote: > I would not install Adobe Reader 9 even if it were for a job, and even if > it were the Linux binary for it. Quit. > > That being said I'm with Cooper. I highly doubt that they actually need you > to have the Adobe product installed, that is just what the salesman told > them. > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > >> make sure they have one without all the bugs adobe always lags with linux >> support and i know there many bugs with reader it might be a security risk >> to install it ... i've never installed it recently i've never had a problem >> with pdf just working with default readers. >> >> also just because its installed does not mean you have to use it if the >> default pdf readers work fine. is adobe reader really needed anymore i >> thought the pdf format was an more open or open format? >> >> >> > I just asked about it again. It has something to do with sound?? Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/8450556f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From belthesar@belthesar.com Mon Mar 22 05:36:47 2010 From: belthesar@belthesar.com (Cody Wilson) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:36:47 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b1003211959w14eca545le3187668fce32d4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1581003201258l7b7a8db9x76cc4385219e0dc9@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b31003202012i583e78cci4ea1bd310a592338@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003211959w14eca545le3187668fce32d4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Oddly enough, I was required to make an Acrobat form for work the other = day, and since I'd never done it before, I had the opportunity to dig = into it a little bit. =20 Acrobat has the ability to play media directly from it, and the only = formats that aren't legacy compatible (IE: readable in older versions of = Acrobat) are FLV (Flash video) and 3GPP (Old-er school video format for = mobile phones). With Flash becoming a common wrapper for other content = such as h.264 video, MP3 audio, and others, not to mention that it's yet = another Adobe format, I wouldn't be surprised if that did require the = Adobe Reader to do all those fancy whistles and bells. I've not tried to open media-embedded PDFs with any of the non-Adobe = readers, so like Cooper suggests, I would try your luck. =20 Lastly, most of the reason that the form-capable PDFs don't work under = the other readers is because Acrobat incorporates JavaScript into = Acrobat. Most of the whiz-bang form features rely on it. It's also the = portal for most of Acrobat's security flaws. If you do find you have to = install it, go into your options and see if the PDFs work without = JavaScript. Ultimately, if not, use the Adobe Reader strictly for work, = and the FLOSS ones for every day. -Cody Wilson Quad Cities Technology Consortium On Mar 21, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Arron Lorenz = wrote: > I would not install Adobe Reader 9 even if it were for a job, and even = if it were the Linux binary for it. Quit. >=20 > That being said I'm with Cooper. I highly doubt that they actually = need you to have the Adobe product installed, that is just what the = salesman told them. >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Noah Norris = wrote: > make sure they have one without all the bugs adobe always lags with = linux support and i know there many bugs with reader it might be a = security risk to install it ... i've never installed it recently i've = never had a problem with pdf just working with default readers.=20 >=20 > also just because its installed does not mean you have to use it if = the default pdf readers work fine. is adobe reader really needed anymore = i thought the pdf format was an more open or open format? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I just asked about it again. It has something to do with sound?? >=20 > Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/447d4245/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Mon Mar 22 18:07:16 2010 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:07:16 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Adobe Reader In-Reply-To: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D9780456D8F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> References: <997c8c1b1003200905r7da347c7ud26c484f0ba04e95@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003200935u388f710cncaa60e7ef00ee450@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1581003201258l7b7a8db9x76cc4385219e0dc9@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b31003202012i583e78cci4ea1bd310a592338@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b1003211959w14eca545le3187668fce32d4d@mail.gmail.com> <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D9780456D8F@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> Message-ID: <65dc1581003221107n731f5f17t89bb25ef40636ebf@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment oddly both the linux and windows version are at 9.3~ i wonder if that flaw made them release faster. i dont see why flash has to be on anything i hate it in my web browser DONT put it in pdf's , u ever notice that your computer runs nice and fast but goto some crapy flash sites and it can take down a 8 core machine to its knees. why do we need a 10GHZ machine for flash content why is it dog slow most the time? and what about 64bit releases ? ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2010, at 1:07 PM, "Noah Norris" =20 wrote: > oddly both the linux and windows version are at 9.3~ i wonder if =20 > that flaw made them release faster. i dont see why flash has to be =20 > on anything i hate it in my web browser DONT put it in pdf's , u =20 > ever notice that your computer runs nice and fast but goto some =20 > crapy flash sites and it can take down a 8 core machine to its =20 > knees. why do we need a 10GHZ machine for flash content why is it =20 > dog slow most the time? and what about 64bit releases ? From bmike78@yahoo.com Tue Mar 23 04:21:40 2010 From: bmike78@yahoo.com (Michael Brennan) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QCLUG] Central Authentication Server - mixed environment In-Reply-To: <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE73177@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> References: <44262bfc1003090705h6429856oc4723dfb342cefe6@mail.gmail.com> <829AE8AE5830BB4E9FC75A7ED3BE8E0D96EDE73177@EXCHANGE.cipafilter.local> Message-ID: <338382.87146.qm@web37906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Assuming that we're talking about RHEL... You can try using this krb5.conf file, just change BOBO.COM to your domain name and kdc and kpasswd_server to your AD server: ### START ### [libdefaults] clockskew = 300 default_realm = BOBO.COM [realms] BOBO.COM = { kdc = dc1.bobo.com default_domain = BOBO.COM kpasswd_server = dc1.bobo.com } [domain_realm] .BOBO.COM = BOBO.COM [logging] default = SYSLOG:NOTICE:DAEMON kdc = FILE:/var/log/kdc.log kadmind = FILE:/var/log/kadmind.log [appdefaults] pam = { ticket_lifetime = 1d renew_lifetime = 1d forwardable = true proxiable = false retain_after_close = false minimum_uid = 0 debug = false } ### END ### Then run this script to update the /etc/pam.d/system-auth file: ### START ### ############################################################## ## AD Authentication using pam_krb5.so ## by Mike Brennan - bmike78@yahoo.com ## ## Revision 0.1 - 04/03/09 ## - installs required checks in /etc/pam.d/system-auth for pam_krb5.so ## ############################################################## if [ -e /etc/redhat-release ]; then RHELDISTRO=$(awk '{ print $8 }' /etc/redhat-release) PAM_KRB5=$(sudo cat /etc/pam.d/system-auth | grep pam_krb5 | wc -l) if [ "$PAM_KRB5" = "0" ]; then printf "pam_krb5 is not configured\n" cp /etc/pam.d/system-auth /etc/pam.d/system-auth-"$(date +%F)" cp /etc/krb5.conf /etc/krb5.conf-"$(date +%F)" if [ "$RHELDISTRO" = "(Tikanga)" ]; then printf "You're running RHEL5\n" sed -i '/auth *required *pam_env.so/a\auth sufficient pam_krb5.so try_first_pass' /etc/pam.d/system-auth printf "pam_krb5 is now configured\n" elif [ "$RHELDISTRO" = "(Nahant" ] then printf "You're running RHEL4\n" sed -i '/auth *required *\/lib\/security\/\$ISA\/pam_env.so/a\auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_krb5.so try_first_pass' /etc/pam.d/system-auth printf "pam_krb5 is now configured\n" else printf "Not sure what you're running...\n" fi else printf "pam_krb5 is installed, check configuration:\n" cat /etc/pam.d/system-auth | grep pam_krb5 fi else printf "You are not running RHEL, and SLES has no pam_tally2 support.\n aborting!\n" fi ### END ### This should allow you to authenticate via AD first to log into the servers, then fall back to local authentication if AD is not available or if the account does not exist on AD. You'll need to have pam_krb5 and krb5-libs installed: yum install pam_krb5 krb5-libs You will need to copy the krb5.conf file into /etc/. The script will make backup copies of krb5.conf and system-auth in case it doesn't go as planned and you need to revert. I spent a year at Duke Medical overhauling and supporting about 200 servers, so if you have any more questions or need any more advise on locking down RHEL, let me know, but note that I refuse to work with SLES 9, unless it's to discuss terminating it's existence. PAM is quite the learning experience if you've never used it before, but hopefully, you should be able to take the script and krb5.conf I wrote and apply them to a server to test out and if you have time, you can tackle these other fun compliance adventures. Just as an FYI to the group... Depending on how much in compliance these machines need to have, you may be required to lock them down more... you can visit these articles to get some advise from our friends at the NSA: http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/os/redhat/rhel5-guide-i731.pdf http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/factsheets/rhel5-pamphlet-i731.pdf I usually suggest also running IPTables, tcpwrappers, ACL's and SELinux for additional security if time (and patience) allow. Run Nessus (or some other security scanner) on them monthly to find any vulnerabilities that need to be fixed as well as patch often. Mike Brennan ----- Original Message ---- From: David Hinkle To: "qclug@qclug.org" Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 9:10:39 AM Subject: RE: [QCLUG] Central Authentication Server - mixed environment I've used that technique to integrate a dial-in Linux server to an active directory domain. I also make extensive use of active directory integration in my CIPAFilter product line. It does work. It is complicated, somewhat prone to issues, but once set up properly it works well. If you plan to use it make sure you take the time to completely understand PAM inside and out, because you will be forced to debug authentication relation issues from time to time. It's a "niche" solution, so expect to have to work for it. That being said, personally I would keep those worlds separate for the simple reason that you don't usually have the same people in charge of both systems, but if you have to do it for compliance reasons it can be done. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Bergert Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:05 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Central Authentication Server - mixed environment Does any one have any experience or any comments regarding doing something like this: http://www.interopsystems.com/LearningCenter/Native_LDAP_native_Kerberos_and_AD_services.htm For a rack of linux servers to help meet compliance needs (Central Authentication)- or is a native openldap solution the way to go - and maintain separate MS and UNIX environments ? _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From matthew@lechleider.com Wed Mar 24 21:59:44 2010 From: matthew@lechleider.com (Matthew Lechleider) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:59:44 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Drupal Jam Chicago is this Saturday! (all day!) Message-ID: <4BAA8B50.4070705@lechleider.com> CDMUG's Spring Jam is this Saturday and today is the last day to request catering. Registering by midnight tonight is the only way to ensure the super special gourmet food provided by Sasha Ruge of Chef's Palette. Register early to guarantee Internet access which requires each attendee to utilize a university user login account. We are excited to see attendees travelling from all over the midwest. The entire CDMUG community is looking forward to hanging out with everyone all day on Saturday. If you have any questions, comments, want to sponsor, or can help out in any way, let us know - http://jam.cdmug.org/contact The goal for Jam is to keep all skill levels entertained throughout the entire day. .oO0-Presentations-0Oo. If you are an advanced Drupal nerd looking for presentations on cutting edge topics, look no further. We are proud to present seven Drupal 7 presentations until 7:00 pm. 10:00 - 11:30 Intro To Drupal 7 Presented By: Larry Garfield 11:45 - 12:30 Themes in Drupal 7 Presented By: Brandon Morrison 1:30 - 3:00 Fields/CCK and Views with Drupal 7 Presented By: Doug Vann 3:15 - 4:00 Drupal 7 API Presented By: Larry Garfield 4:15 - 5:00 Shopping Cart Systems Presented By: Ruben Rodriguez 5:00 - 6:00 Acessibility in Drupal 7 Presented By: Katherine Lynch 6:00 - 7:00 Mystery Session Presented By: Un Known .oO0-Workshops-0Oo. New users are encouraged to participate in one of our two workshops: "Drupal for Everyone" or "Drupal for Designers". Both workshops will start as an introduction to Drupal, but people interested design/themes will gain more from "Drupal For Designers". 10:30 - 12:30 Introduction and Basics 12:30 - 1:30 Break for Lunch 1:30 - 3:30 Lecture, demonstrations, and hands-on examples. 3:30 - 4:00 Q&A Workshop 1: Introduction to Drupal For Everyone Instructors: Matthew Lechleider & Sean Charles Workshop 2: Introduction to Drupal For Designers Instructors:Hans Riemenschneider & Bob Snodgrass .oO0-DrupalconSF Contest-0Oo. Friday March 26th 7:00 pm is the deadline to enter our Drupalcon San Francisco contest. During lunch we will bring the top 5 finalists on stage for Drupalympics. One winner will receive a sponsorship for their trip to Drupalcon, compliments of CDMUG and Trellon. After registering for the Jam, be sure to fill out an entry form at http://jam.cdmug.org/contest http://jam.cdmug.org Event Registration - http://jam.cdmug.org/user/registration - Matthew@Lechleider.com From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Thu Mar 25 16:23:25 2010 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:23:25 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Printer install --CUPS Message-ID: <997c8c1b1003250923p6b33ebd8j3f4e149fb04a5ab1@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I'm trying to install a Lexmark X204n all-in-one for someone using CUPS. Distro is Debian Etch. My Etch has usually worked well, but hers is being "uncooperative". The PPD installed as advertised and CUPS "sees" the printer. I'm at the point of defining "Device type" and "Device URI". Lexmark wants this: Device type = AppSocket/HP JetDirect Device URI = socket://printer_hostname:9100 I think I've figured out that "printer_hostname" means the print server name. If that is correct, how do I find out what it is? Docs and files don't seem to call it out specifically. Of course, I could be too literal in my expectations. Can someone tell me what I've missed, please? Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/94a3b107/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Thu Mar 25 16:31:09 2010 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:31:09 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Printer install --CUPS In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b1003250923p6b33ebd8j3f4e149fb04a5ab1@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003250923p6b33ebd8j3f4e149fb04a5ab1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537491003250931p1030be00we85b5831bc64e595@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > I'm trying to install a Lexmark X204n all-in-one for someone using CUPS. > Distro is Debian Etch. My Etch has usually worked well, but hers is being > "uncooperative". > > The PPD installed as advertised and CUPS "sees" the printer. I'm at the > point of defining "Device type" and "Device URI". Lexmark wants this: > Device type = AppSocket/HP JetDirect > Device URI = socket://printer_hostname:9100 > > I think I've figured out that "printer_hostname" means the print server > name. If that is correct, how do I find out what it is? Docs and files don't > seem to call it out specifically. Of course, I could be too literal in my > expectations. > > Can someone tell me what I've missed, please? > > Jim > I would assume printer_hostname would either be the IP address of the printer (if it's of the network connected variety) or the IP address of the machine the printer is connected to (via USB or whatever). From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Mar 25 18:31:53 2010 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:31:53 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Printer install --CUPS In-Reply-To: <1c9537491003250931p1030be00we85b5831bc64e595@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b1003250923p6b33ebd8j3f4e149fb04a5ab1@mail.gmail.com> <1c9537491003250931p1030be00we85b5831bc64e595@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1581003251131sf3059eeyd5bf1339418a633@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment i thought most lexmark printers where garbage in linux kinda like visioneer scanners ... for printing hp and epson are well supported. almost all lexmarks i've had to setup or try to use left me taking it to the field with a sledge hammer. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Jim Hall > wrote: > > I'm trying to install a Lexmark X204n all-in-one for someone using CUPS. > > Distro is Debian Etch. My Etch has usually worked well, but hers is being > > "uncooperative". > > > > The PPD installed as advertised and CUPS "sees" the printer. I'm at the > > point of defining "Device type" and "Device URI". Lexmark wants this: > > Device type = AppSocket/HP JetDirect > > Device URI = socket://printer_hostname:9100 > > > > I think I've figured out that "printer_hostname" means the print server > > name. If that is correct, how do I find out what it is? Docs and files > don't > > seem to call it out specifically. Of course, I could be too literal in my > > expectations. > > > > Can someone tell me what I've missed, please? > > > > Jim > > > > I would assume printer_hostname would either be the IP address of the > printer (if it's of the network connected variety) or the IP address > of the machine the printer is connected to (via USB or whatever). > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/0dfe5b4d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--