scary just scary.<br>I've just noticed most malware now goes all out to=
make your experience hell trying to remove it. <br><br><div class==
"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Leif Theden <span dir="lt=
r"><<a href="mailto:leif.theden@gmail.com">leif.theden@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">It seems like we =
are on the dawn of botnet becoming self-aware.<br>
<br>
anyway, bravo on the vista performance. my that os RIP.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Noah Norris <<a href="mailto:preludel=
inux@gmail.com">preludelinux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Was helping my friend update his computer he had 512 MB ram and a 160G=
B hard<br>
> drive. let me just say here that he was not having any Wow factor.<br>
><br>
> So i had him order some more memory (4GB) and hard drive (500GB) and p=
art of<br>
> the deal was to get Ubuntu 8.10 installed on the 160 GB hard drive.<br=
>
> lets just say that after i installed the memory vand drive vista would=
no<br>
> longer boot off the main drive .... maybe to much hardware has c=
hanged or<br>
> its<br>
> a new feature .... (the computer was a 3 Ghz pentuim D)<br>
><br>
> anyway i went about doing a full install of vista from his disks and a=
fter<br>
> it was done after like 8 hours for updates and reboots and<br>
> some apps installed he was ready to go. after the system came up i had=
this<br>
> feeling that the OS felt like something i removed from most windows<br=
>
> computers coming from dell gateway hp etc etc ( adware crapware buy th=
is<br>
> crap ... ) except it was integrated into vista everything i clicked on=
<br>
> i was presented with upgrade windows and click here to buy windows sof=
tware<br>
> ..... um so this is windows adware addition um vista on ma=
ny if not<br>
> all the screens showing computer infomation had these nice lil feature=
s ,<br>
> yes this is home basic but ads inside my OS .... besides installing vi=
sta<br>
> security products where also installed taking up extra time.<br>
><br>
> After all that time had past i did say 8 hours but also an entire nigh=
t for<br>
> windows to install sp1 cough cough i ventured to install linux ....<br=
>
> finally i could relax install and update so i did a standerd install o=
f<br>
> ubuntu 8.10 and all update and additional software installed (codecs e=
tc)<br>
> and i looked at the time an noticed like an hour and 30 mintues went b=
y<br>
> ...... after i brought my friends pc back to his house under linux i p=
luged<br>
> in his epson all in one printer and noticed a pop-up in the right hand=
<br>
> corner saying it was detected and automaticly configured for use .....=
( in<br>
> windows vista it did require a driver / software download) so under li=
nux a<br>
> min after turning on his printer/scanner he was able to print and scan=
<br>
> windows took alot longer about 10 mins and a reboot. ( this just=
shows if<br>
> linux get more oem support and device drivers the kind of things we ma=
y see)<br>
><br>
> during this exercise i also had to copy large amount of files of and h=
ope he<br>
> didnt get hit with the infamous vista copy bug, copying files in vista=
is<br>
> dog slow.<br>
> i had to let this run all night with the vista download (which probley=
<br>
> downgraded his connectio to the network ) updates which the next day i=
re<br>
> copied because windows<br>
> didnt copy all the files yet gave me an error ... maybe sp1 fixed that=
....<br>
> so after all the updates i copied again. ( talk about a wow expi=
ence the<br>
> only cool thing was if<br>
> i was charging , god all the extra hours.)<br>
><br>
> i think i finaly understood lately as what Wow means on windows. i hav=
e<br>
> fixed many virus infested computers and with that new worm hitting 9<b=
r>
> million+ boxes (windows boxes<br>
> only apply but WHY THE F**K DOES all the reporting agency never say it=
only<br>
> effects WINDOWS or WINDOWS VIRUS , nice worm too it infects from  =
;that was<br>
> patched<br>
> in october but also now attemps brute force dictonary based attack on =
admin<br>
> accounts ( which normaly dont have passwords on most home pcs .. ) any=
way it<br>
> sickends me that<br>
> these virus outbreaks are not labled WINDOWS Only Virus right in the h=
ead<br>
> line in the article. The above worm is also cited to might be connecte=
d to<br>
> becoming a botnet<br>
> which might actually wake some people up i mean 9 million computers co=
uld do<br>
> some interesting damage.<br>
><br>
> Wow means Worms on Windows <<<<br>
><br>
><br>
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