I believe there a way to use KVM ( linux kernel cpu VT extension for Virtua=
lBox ) should make it run faster on newer processors<br><br>i wonder if any=
of these may support 3D one day ? <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Th=
u, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Aaron Johnson <<a href="mailto:acjohnson@=
pcdomain.com">acjohnson@pcdomain.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:=
10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is there a way to make VirtualBox
automatically start a VM on boot? I like VirtualBox as it has very good
performance but I've never been able to use it as a server replacement
for VMWare because I cannot find this feature anywhere….</span></font></p=
>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font=
-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="T=
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<a href="mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org" target="_blank">qclug-bounces@=
qclug.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org" target="=
_blank">qclug-bounces@qclug.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">=
On Behalf Of </span></b>Arron Lorenz<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 27, =
2008
11:52 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:qclu=
g@qclug.org" target="_blank">qclug@qclug.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [QCLUG] Virtu=
al
Machines</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"=
><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I've been using
VirtualBox as a virtual server for my personal machine. I do like the progr=
am
over all. For an open source program it has very very close performance to
vmware server. Though cooper is correct vmware is still faster. I would lik=
e to
point out that vmware has released vmware server 2.0 beta <a href="http:/=
/www.vmware.com/beta/server/" target="_blank">http://www.vmware.com/beta/=
server/</a><br>
<br>
It's run using Apache's tomcat appliance server. I do like it's=
completely
headless operation in windows and under linux (I'm using it on ubuntu).=
You
navigate/configure the vm from a web interface 127.0.0.1:8333\ui . The spee=
d
over the web interface from across the internet is pretty responsive though=
I
would still use RDP for the connection to the vm.<br>
<br>
On the downside the vm uses up it's allocated ram, but also the applica=
tion for
me running in Firefox tends to be pretty ram intensive.<br>
<br>
<br>
Well that's my 2 cents.<br>
Arron<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt=
;">On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Chris Cooper <<a href="mailto:QCA=
dmin@gmail.com" target="_blank">QCAdmin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></=
font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt=
;">So as to not hijack a perfectly good thread on partition sizes, I<br>
decided to post anew some thoughts on the Virtualbox comments brought<br>
up.<br>
<br>
I have recently had a chance to do more research on virtual machines<br>
for work, and inside Ubuntu, From my experience VMWare server performs<br>
slightly better than virtualbox after you install vmware-tools on the<br>
guest-OS. While not open source, it is free from <a href="http://ww=
w.vmware.com" target="_blank">www.vmware.com</a>. The<br>
VMWare-tools are deffinately a MUST on the guest. Without the proper<=
br>
VMware mouse and video driver installed, performance is sluggish at<br>
best.<br>
<br>
If you have a processor that supports the virtualization flag, it can<br>
make a huge performance gain for a 64-bit guest OS. However, it seems=
<br>
to slow down XP VM's under 7.10. More info on the flag can be fou=
nd<br>
here: <a href="http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/linux-tip-how-to-tell=
-if-your-processor-supports-vt/" target="_blank">http://www.howtogeek.com=
/howto/linux/linux-tip-how-to-tell-if-your-processor-supports-vt/</a><br>
<br>
It is important to note that as of this time, VMWare doesn't have much<=
br>
if any support for virtualizing your 3D card, so trying to game inside<br>
a VM isn't real practical. For that, I would stick with wine and<=
br>
cedega. This also means you may notice a big slow down in a Vista VM<=
br>
if you have the Aero interface on. It seems to run decently well with=
<br>
it disabled, though.<br>
<br>
Another fun use for VM's is trying out Live CD's. I am consta=
ntly<br>
downloading different Live cd's for various things, so I created a<br>
small VM with no hard drive, that I use for trying out a live cd<br>
before I burn it. CD-R's are cheap, but it still takes a fair amo=
unt<br>
of time to burn and reboot just to see what is inside.<br>
<br>
As for Xen, it doesn't really compete on the same level as Virtualbox<b=
r>
and VMware server. Xen is probably one of the fastest of all the<br>
virtual machine apps, but it is a hypervisor (a lightweight linux<br>
distro who's sole function is to host VM's), and can't be run i=
nside<br>
your main environment. It is restricted to 64-bit processors only,<br=
>
and doesn't provide access to the guest VM's from it's console,=
since<br>
it is command line only. However, for hosting multiple VM's on on=
e<br>
server, it is great. VMware offers their ESX hypervisor, which has a<=
br>
better tool set, but isn't as efficient at Xen as sharing resources<br>
over multiple VM's.<br>
<br>
TechThrob had a really nice write up comparing VMware Server,<br>
Virtualbox, Qemu and Parallels. It lacks some heavy tech specs, but is<br>
good reading for people just getting into the whole virtual machine<br>
thing.<br>
<a href="http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linux_virtualization.php" target=
="_blank">http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linux_virtualization.php</a><br>
<br>
--Cooper<br>
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-- <br>
From:<br>
Arron James Lorenz<br>
Reel to Reel Drive In<br>
Reach Global Networks LLC<br>
563-579-7046 </span></font></p>
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