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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there a way to make VirtualBox
automatically start a VM on boot? I like VirtualBox as it has very good
performance but I’ve never been able to use it as a server =
replacement
for VMWare because I cannot find this feature =
anywhere….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Arron Lorenz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 27, =
2008
11:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> qclug@qclug.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [QCLUG] =
Virtual
Machines</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've been =
using
VirtualBox as a virtual server for my personal machine. I do like the =
program
over all. For an open source program it has very very close performance =
to
vmware server. Though cooper is correct vmware is still faster. I would =
like to
point out that vmware has released vmware server 2.0 beta <a
href="http://www.vmware.com/beta/server/">http://www.vmware.com/beta/se=
rver/</a><br>
<br>
It's run using Apache's tomcat appliance server. I do like it's =
completely
headless operation in windows and under linux (I'm using it on ubuntu). =
You
navigate/configure the vm from a web interface 127.0.0.1:8333\ui . The =
speed
over the web interface from across the internet is pretty responsive =
though I
would still use RDP for the connection to the vm.<br>
<br>
On the downside the vm uses up it's allocated ram, but also the =
application for
me running in Firefox tends to be pretty ram intensive.<br>
<br>
<br>
Well that's my 2 cents.<br>
Arron<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Chris Cooper <<a
href="mailto:QCAdmin@gmail.com">QCAdmin@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So as to not hijack a perfectly good thread on partition sizes, =
I<br>
decided to post anew some thoughts on the Virtualbox comments =
brought<br>
up.<br>
<br>
I have recently had a chance to do more research on virtual machines<br>
for work, and inside Ubuntu, From my experience VMWare server =
performs<br>
slightly better than virtualbox after you install vmware-tools on =
the<br>
guest-OS. While not open source, it is free from <a
href="http://www.vmware.com" target="_blank">www.vmware.com</a>. =
The<br>
VMWare-tools are deffinately a MUST on the guest. Without the =
proper<br>
VMware mouse and video driver installed, performance is sluggish at<br>
best.<br>
<br>
If you have a processor that supports the virtualization flag, it =
can<br>
make a huge performance gain for a 64-bit guest OS. However, it =
seems<br>
to slow down XP VM's under 7.10. More info on the flag can be =
found<br>
here: <a
href="http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/linux-tip-how-to-tell-if-you=
r-processor-supports-vt/"
target="_blank">http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/linux-tip-how-to-t=
ell-if-your-processor-supports-vt/</a><br>
<br>
It is important to note that as of this time, VMWare doesn't have =
much<br>
if any support for virtualizing your 3D card, so trying to game =
inside<br>
a VM isn't real practical. For that, I would stick with wine =
and<br>
cedega. This also means you may notice a big slow down in a Vista =
VM<br>
if you have the Aero interface on. It seems to run decently well =
with<br>
it disabled, though.<br>
<br>
Another fun use for VM's is trying out Live CD's. I am =
constantly<br>
downloading different Live cd's for various things, so I created a<br>
small VM with no hard drive, that I use for trying out a live cd<br>
before I burn it. CD-R's are cheap, but it still takes a fair =
amount<br>
of time to burn and reboot just to see what is inside.<br>
<br>
As for Xen, it doesn't really compete on the same level as =
Virtualbox<br>
and VMware server. Xen is probably one of the fastest of all =
the<br>
virtual machine apps, but it is a hypervisor (a lightweight linux<br>
distro who's sole function is to host VM's), and can't be run inside<br>
your main environment. It is restricted to 64-bit processors =
only,<br>
and doesn't provide access to the guest VM's from it's console, =
since<br>
it is command line only. However, for hosting multiple VM's on =
one<br>
server, it is great. VMware offers their ESX hypervisor, which has =
a<br>
better tool set, but isn't as efficient at Xen as sharing resources<br>
over multiple VM's.<br>
<br>
TechThrob had a really nice write up comparing VMware Server,<br>
Virtualbox, Qemu and Parallels. It lacks some heavy tech specs, but =
is<br>
good reading for people just getting into the whole virtual machine<br>
thing.<br>
<a href="http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linux_virtualization.php" =
target="_blank">http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linux_virtualization.php<=
/a><br>
<br>
--Cooper<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
From:<br>
Arron James Lorenz<br>
Reel to Reel Drive In<br>
Reach Global Networks LLC<br>
563-579-7046 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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